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Stan Lee
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jedimarley wrote:
Still trying to figure out your fascination with Groo and Simpsons #1. Confused


No fascination, I just think they might be good for a nice little flip in the future.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant for this list to be changed and added to so as to make a list.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Spider wrote:
Brother J wrote:
The Zot ones come to mind immediately. I think if you're going for an issue of that to be worth something, #34 (the last issue) is probably the best you'll be able to do. Personally, I think all appearances of 9-Jack-9 should go for a premium, but that's just because I think he's a kickass villain.


Actually #36 is the final issue.


I knew that, especially considering I have that issue. Should have double checked. Embarassed


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Rog 2000, eh, again, it's Byrne, but not his best work. I'm not sure, but isn't the Pacific Rog 2000 book just reprints from the old Charlton comics Byrne did?



Yeah it is. Also I think that there were pages switched around in the reprint. Rog 2000 stuff originally appeared in E-MAN and one story was from (I think) a fanzine that Byrne, Roger Stern, and Bob Layton worked on.


Yeah, there were two versions, one had the pages of one of the stories out of order, so they later did a corrected version. I don't think either one has more value than the other (as far as I know).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Lee wrote:


The Pacific Presents is an early Rocketeer appearence. I have no idea who Vanity is either.


That's incorrect. The Rocketeer is not in that book. Here's the Dave Stevens checklist:

http://www.davestevens.com/html/ds_check.html

Pacific Presents #1 and 2 were the only Rocketeer issues in that title.


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Legion #259 is the first Legion of Superheros.


Nah, it's just the first time the Legion of Super-Heroes had an ongoing comic with only their name attached to it (as opposed to Adventure Comics or Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes). It's not even the first comic entitled Legion of Super-Heroes, as there was a Legion of Super-Heroes four issue series in the 1970's (anyone know if this book was intended all along to be a four issue series or was it just cancelled quickly?)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brother J wrote:
Stan Lee wrote:


The Pacific Presents is an early Rocketeer appearence. I have no idea who Vanity is either.


That's incorrect. The Rocketeer is not in that book. Here's the Dave Stevens checklist:

http://www.davestevens.com/html/ds_check.html

Pacific Presents #1 and 2 were the only Rocketeer issues in that title.


Well Rolling Eyes

Just kidding, thanks for pointing that out. Thumbs Up

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Legion #259 is the first Legion of Superheros.


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Nah, it's just the first time the Legion of Super-Heroes had an ongoing comic with only their name attached to it (as opposed to Adventure Comics or Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes). It's not even the first comic entitled Legion of Super-Heroes, as there was a Legion of Super-Heroes four issue series in the 1970's (anyone know if this book was intended all along to be a four issue series or was it just cancelled quickly?)


This one I can honestly say that's what I meant. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brother J wrote:


Yeah, there were two versions, one had the pages of one of the stories out of order, so they later did a corrected version. I don't think either one has more value than the other (as far as I know).


There's a corrected version? Now I have to go find it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Spider wrote:
Brother J wrote:


Yeah, there were two versions, one had the pages of one of the stories out of order, so they later did a corrected version. I don't think either one has more value than the other (as far as I know).


There's a corrected version? Now I have to go find it.


Here's a thread with discussion about the error and corrected versions:

http://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22879&whichpage=1

I believe the corrected version is much tougher to find.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would these be, if any? Would any of the following be considered good Copper Age sleepers?

Acme Novelty Library #1 (1993) (Introduces Jimmy Corrigan) Maybe... has low distribution going for but a relatively obscure cgaracter

Action Comics #583 *meh*

Akira#1 (1988) (Early American Manga) good chance fore an uptick or two, depending on further exploitation of the franchise

All-Star Squadron #47 (Todd McFarlane Art)maybe, nut in a minor way

Animal Man #1 (1988)definitely has some upward potentisl

Blip #1 (1st Donkey Kong and Mario in comics) More if sold in the gaming market than in comics sites

Bucky O Hare #1 (1991) Are there even still new poeople coming into the funny amninal market?


Contest of Champions #1

Dark Horse Presents #1 (1986) Definitely


Dark Horse Presents #10 (1st Mask) Definitely


Dark Horse Presents #36 (Alien vs. Predator) Definitely


Dark Horse Presents #47 (1986)

Doom Patrol #19

Dreadstar #1 (1982)

Fantasy Illustrated #1 (Craig Russell Cover, Ditko Art)

Faust #1 (1989)

Femforce #1 (1985)

Grendel #1 (1986) Definitely


Groo the Wanderer #1 (1982)

Hellblazer #27 maybe


Infinity Inc. #14

Incredible Hulk #324 (1st Grey Hulk since Hulk #1)

Incredible Hulk #330 (1st McFarlane Issue) Definitely


Justice League #1

Legion of Superheroes #259

Lone Wolf and Cub #1 (Frank miller Cover) Definitely


Lone Wolf and Cub #45 (Last Issue, Low Print) Definitely


Machine Man #19 (1st appearance of Jack O Lantern, later 2nd Hobgoblin)

Mage #1

Mage #6

Marvel Fanfare #1

Marvel Graphic Novel #1

Marvel Graphic Novel #5

Megaton #1

Megaton #3

Ms. Mystic #1 (Neal Adams)

The Nam #1 (Michael Golden Art)

New Gods #6 (48 Page of New Kirby Art)

The New Teen Titans #1 (1st Changeling)

Nexus #1 (1981) Definitely


Nick Fury vs. SHIELD #2 (Sienkiewicz Cover, Low Print Run) Definitely


Omega Men #3 (1st Lobo) Definitely


Pacific Presents #1 (Rocketeer) Definitely


Pacific Presents #2 (4th Rocketeer) Definitely


Pacific Presents #3 (1984)

Pacific Presents #4 (1st Vanity)

Phoenix #1 (Byrne/Austin, features unpublished ending to X-Men #137)

Poison Elves #8 (1st in own title)

Poison Elves #13 (Low Print Run)

Poison Elves (15 (Low Print Run)

Predator #1 (1st Predator in comics) Definitely


Punisher #1 (on-going)

The Rocketeer Adventure Magazine #1 (1st Jonas) Definitely


The Rocketeer Special Edition #1 (Stevens Cover/Art) Definitely


Rog 2000 #1 (Byrne Cover/Art, 1982)

Ronin #6

Savage She-Hulk #1 (1st She-Hulk) Definitely


Silver Surfer #1 (1987)

Simpsons Comics #1

Sonic the Hedgehog #1

Spawn #18 (Morrison Script, Low Print Run)

Spawn #21 (Low Distribution)

Spectacular Spider-Man #64 (1st Cloak and Dagger)

Spider-Man vs. Wolverine #1 (Death of Ned Leeds)

Star Slayer #2

Star Trek #17 (1980 series) (Low Print Run)

Star Trek #18 (1980 series) (Low Print Run)

Star Wars: Dark Empire #2 (Low Print Run)

Terminator: Burning Earth #1 Definitely


Thor #337

Transformers #75 (Low Print Run)

Unknown Soldier #268 (Death of Unknown Soldier)

Usagi Yojimba #1 (1987)

War #47 (Low Print Run, Last Issue)

Wonder Woman #0 (Zero Hour)

Wonder Woman #1 (New Origin, Perez Cover/Art)

X-Factor #6 (1st full Apocalypse)

X-Factor #24 (1st Archangel) Definitely


X-Men #201 (1st Cable as a Baby)

X-Men #205 (Wolverine Solo Story, Windsor-Smith Art)

X-Men Annual #14 (1st Gambit)

Zot! #1 (1st Zot)

Zot! #10 (Ashcan)

Zot! #11 (1st New Stories)
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